Wolf Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Criminal punishment isn't simply about jail time, "removal from society," rehabilitation, or simple punitive measures: criminal punishment carries with it a moral sanction, a sort of moral approbation indicating that a certain individual acted outside the bounds of what society is prepared to tolerate, and a stigma is attached to it. Therefore, whatever you think the purpose of criminal convictions is, you must understand that there is a certain moral gravity to labeling individuals "criminals" that cannot be avoided. You create a separate class of persons, and this is not to be taken lightly. Especially when you are prepared to create this class of citizens early in the life of an individual.That being said, criminal law also requires an element of the "evil mind" from actors. With little exception, no one who is mentally incompetent is forced to suffer the same fate as an individual who is capable of comprehending the consequences and forbidden-ness of his act and does so anyway. Furthermore, young children are often exempted from what would otherwise be life-altering and damning societal consequences simply because they are unable to comprehend the gravity of their actions, and generally, could not have formed the "evil" intent required to establish criminal guilt. In the United States, we try some teenage actors who would otherwise be exempt from said criminal process as adults because the heinous quality of their crimes is sufficient to support an inference of perverse, demented, or otherwise "evil" intent--which would normally be impossible given their age. Without this standard--which is, again, almost never applied to very young children--it is impossible, in my view, to treat someone who has not reached his majority with equal legal scrutiny as one who has. The law cannot countenance it, because in and of itself, it is something that undermines the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 In that case there's an awfully big precedent for christianity not being a particularly effective deterrent. There is a big difference between "christianity" and a real Christian. A search inside prisons for persons who were practicing before imprisonment what the Bible teaches wont prove very fruitful-unless you search in countries where human rights are freely violated. Nobody is perfect though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Remarkably well.Meh, talk's cheap in the Internet Age: what proof is there you even have kids?Pix or it didn't happen. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 Meh, talk's cheap in the Internet Age: what proof is there you even have kids?Pix or it didn't happen. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Um, isn't it rather a weeee bit of a leap from my post requesting photographic proof that she has indeed spawned to a photo of a convicted pedophile? ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted March 20, 2010 Author Share Posted March 20, 2010 Of course, but this is the internet ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vota dc Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 It should be abolished! I fail to see why should there exist an age limit. What counts is if the person understands what he is doing.I am agree.In Italy it is 14 and between 14 and 18 you have a penalty reduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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