Black_Emperor Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 its gun is fixed, it doesnt shoot and track its enemies, and it cant shoot in the sky. A devestator can...but the still should have made it with a little longer range... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Assault tank 2400 Health and Mino 2500 Health.For some "Dumb" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 The four cannon's does hurt him, but the Mino will get destroyed at the end and duh, its a Artillery weapon.Its most effective against infantry and low armored verhicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Simple.. *Drag's Cursor to the tank, Clicks. Drag's cursor to the Mino and clicks again. Mino fires.... Tank gets hurt a little. Assault tank fires and fires.. Mino dead * ;DDo you know what your trying to say?Two shot from an assault tank will take out a minotaurus ??? But minotaurus could probably take out an assault tank in 2 burst. An assault tank will probably take 10 shots to take a minotaurus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Sard`s comments are popular now ;)To take out mino with assault tank you must be kinda sneaky, you must not stand and shot, cos mino can shot there where assault`s range doesn`t work. Assault is faster than mino and you can use this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 How? Move in, shoot, and move back out of mino's range? That's laser tanks tactic and cannot be used by assault tanks, their not fast enough, and their also not quick enough to move out of mino's shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 No move out of mino range, tank is too slow, but sometimes when I play and when I move assault a little while mino shoot, mino doesn`t hit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 That might be true if it misses, but it wouldn't miss all 4, would it? Even though it happens all the time and you won, then its because your lucky and not because the minotaurus is weaker than an assault tank. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Splash damage doesn't harm the Assault tank much, when he approaches the mino and shoots at him. Unless if your playing against some smart guy that predicts the movement's and force fire on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_Storm Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 I'd say its more likely to have a group of Minos vs a group of Assault tanks rather than a 1 vs 1. In that case, it depends on numbers. A group of Minos can take out a few tanks at once, especially if the tanks were stationery for that 1st volley and you have enough Minos. Assault tanks make quick work of individual Minos, especially if you move your rear tanks into range as you wait for tanks to reload (i.e. your front tanks end up at almost at point blank range so that all your tanks are within range). With a few Minos dead, they start shooting again and many tanks are destroyed/badly damaged.Things get more interesting when you split forces into at least 2 groups. While 1st Mino group reloads, 2nd Mino group fires. Or tanks approach from more than 1 direction, reducing splash damage to the group.Then you can think about support units. For example, Harkonnen Missile tanks fire from behind the Assault tanks that were used to soak up Mino fire. Mongoose/Kindjal support Minos to quickly destroy Assault tanks. Gunships and Ornithopters come into play. Advanced Carryalls, Fedaykin, NIAB tanks, Ordos interference... etcWith a 1 v 1 though, provided the Assault tank reduces damage taken by moving (dodges some Mino shots) and taking advantage of Mino's long reload time, the tank would win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Then its not "mino vs assault" anymore if you need reinforcements and also from non-assults units !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigaettin Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 lmao thi is a stupid topic, an assault tank takes out the mino 1v1, minos win in groups but 1v1 they suck against tanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calaban_emperor Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Assault tank 2400 Health and Mino 2500 Health.For some "Dumb" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Get lost, don't be a dumb-ass like Sardauker.Minotaurus is much stronger, thats the fact, and one can change this!!!(Unless your the game designer, or you cheated) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 ... an assault tank owns a mino 1 on 1a sonic tank owns a mno 1 on 1a deviater owns a mino 1 on 1a lasertank owns a mino 1 on 1a missile tank owns a mino 1 on 1a kobra owns a mino 1 on 1perhaps you want more examples... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted May 10, 2002 Share Posted May 10, 2002 Check the rules.ini. There stands that the Assault Tank has 2400 health (WW had suggested for 2000), and the Minotaurus has 2500 health.And don't insult people, Devastator_Apocalypse. Next time I remove such a post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech13 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 timenn: im sorry if you are mad at me for saying this but...are you guys REALLY still arguing about this thing.i remember saying how stupid this is at least a month agomino is from upgraded factoryassault is from non-upgraded factorymino has big damage rangeit can destroy even a large group of assaults, or at least damage them severely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 And the laser tank of the Ordos can beat a Mino 1 vs 1 and yet, they do not include in the Upgraded Factory branch. The reason why the Assault Tank can beat a Mino is, they deal more armor damage and has better reload speed. And if you don't believe me, send a Assault tank vs a Mino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sadukar Posted June 1, 2002 Share Posted June 1, 2002 If the Mino is on a hill top it can  take an Assult out whit one hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 When outranging yes, but it doesn't happen that much that the Assault Tank can't reach the Mino. And when the Mino is at the edge of a cliff, it can still be hit by the Assault Tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CypressX15 Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 I think it all depends on the player, Like Gunseng_Harkonnen said, all you got to do is get the assault tank outta the way b4 the mino can fire again, but say you were to just let the tank sit there in an all out up front battle, the mino would slaughter the tank, because of its health and range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path_xiii Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 devastator_apocalypse....(and leech13), Â it has already been mentioned many times in this topic, but i'll bring it up again:The assault tank BEATS a mino 1 on 1.In fact, judging from what you've both posted, HAve u even come across a (1vs1)mino/assault confrontation in the game? It doesn't seem like u have from the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedaykin_Hawk Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Mino is SUPPORT. It is not tank, it is artillery. Artillery vs Tank? Mongoose distracts assaults while mino fires. When would you everevreverevereverever come across a 1v1 assault vs mino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostHunter Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Ummmmmmm. You people are going off the stereotype that a mino owns all. Why dont you try it sometime. The assualt tank wins against the mino 1v1 it doesn't matter who fires first, or that the tank has a fixed gun. The tank will win one vs oone. Until next post, Vilgent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 There is no way what you say could be true, think about it, why would an assault tank be cheaper than an mino, if you reckon a $800 unit could beat a $1300 unit, then everyone would use the assault tank and no one would use rather the mino or even ever use Atredies, because the mino is the strongest ground unit it has or maybe sonic tank in attack rate and power but has much weaker armor.Listen Devastator_Apocalypse: The reason a mino is much more expensive is that it is anti infantry too!!! Cost of units doesn't matter when two units fight 1 vs 1!just take the laser tank and the mino for an example... The lasertank blow the mino to shreds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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