Gruntlord6 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 What is the installer called ? And is it publicly avaiable?It has to be a Nvidia thing as far as Emperor I tried using just one core and 2 megs of ram with the same results. One question I am wondering is if it is using some form of Open Gl for the graphics. Windows 7 seems to have big issues with Open Gl, so far I have not been able to run Open Gl on Windows 7 though there is supposed to be a way with OpenGl 3.0I call it Dune 2000: Grunt Mods Edition, and yes it is. http://dune.gruntmods.com/Dune%202000.msiAs far as I can tell its an Nvidia problem, as using intel integrated graphics solves it. I don`t have an ati card to test my theory out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkAngelMyk Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 Thank you for that installer. Instead of using your integrated graphics for Dune2k I have an alternative solution for you. It seems to work for any of the old games like C&C and Star Craft for some unknown reason. If you open the screen resolution window and leave it open in the background then start the game it will work normally for some reason. I tried doing the same with Emperor with no sucess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruntlord6 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Thank you for that installer. Instead of using your integrated graphics for Dune2k I have an alternative solution for you. It seems to work for any of the old games like C&C and Star Craft for some unknown reason. If you open the screen resolution window and leave it open in the background then start the game it will work normally for some reason. I tried doing the same with Emperor with no sucess. well i have 2 computers so its no big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkAngelMyk Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 I have shut the game down when it hangs and what I have found is that windows is telling me that the graphic driver has quit working. What I am wondering is what changed in the way Nvidia or windows is handling graphic procedure calls between Vista and 7. I know that this game worked flawlessly on Vista 64 bit. The only problem was in doing the right tricks to install it. But ever since the beta for 7 this game has not worked. If I could find out just what changed then maybe we could find a fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruntlord6 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I have shut the game down when it hangs and what I have found is that windows is telling me that the graphic driver has quit working. What I am wondering is what changed in the way Nvidia or windows is handling graphic procedure calls between Vista and 7. I know that this game worked flawlessly on Vista 64 bit. The only problem was in doing the right tricks to install it. But ever since the beta for 7 this game has not worked. If I could find out just what changed then maybe we could find a fix. I really think thats a generic error, just means the drivers arnt compatible, are you sure you used the SAME drivers? Drivers get updated and sometimes it is at the cost of old games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkAngelMyk Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 No I didnt use the same drivers. What I am saying is that I am wondering what they (either Nvidia or MS) have changed for how they handle things with the drivers. The game works in Vista 64bit. I have a second computer with updated Vista 64 bit drivers in the house. The game runs fine on my sons machine. Unfortunately it is something in either the Windows 7 drivers for Nvidia or Windows 7 itself that has changed that is causing the problem. Given the problem with the more recent Nvidia drivers causing hardware failure and being pulled offline for download I am wondering if it is more on the Nvidia side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathLok Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Having the same issue here on win 7 x64. I also have vm workstation and have built a win xp and win 98 boxes with no luck. In most cases Dune installation fails stating that the debugger needs to be disabled. Also used the disk issue/new setup with no luck. Finally gave up and reformatted my laptop that had win 7 and installed win xp. Installed dune and played with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruntlord6 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 No I didnt use the same drivers. What I am saying is that I am wondering what they (either Nvidia or MS) have changed for how they handle things with the drivers. The game works in Vista 64bit. I have a second computer with updated Vista 64 bit drivers in the house. The game runs fine on my sons machine. Unfortunately it is something in either the Windows 7 drivers for Nvidia or Windows 7 itself that has changed that is causing the problem. Given the problem with the more recent Nvidia drivers causing hardware failure and being pulled offline for download I am wondering if it is more on the Nvidia side. Thats an issue with the fan control though, which is set manually on most machines anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4ever Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hello, I'm experiencing the same issue... I use Windows 7 with an Nvidia graphics card...The problem, must probably is the connection made between Windows 7 and the Nvidia cards.Just wanted to know if someone has already solved the problem. This is a rare and strange error. However, can someone please show me a way to fix this error? Have you discovered a solution yet?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruntlord6 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hello, I'm experiencing the same issue... I use Windows 7 with an Nvidia graphics card...The problem, must probably is the connection made between Windows 7 and the Nvidia cards.Just wanted to know if someone has already solved the problem. This is a rare and strange error. However, can someone please show me a way to fix this error? Have you discovered a solution yet?Cheersnope, try playing with integrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4ever Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 nope, try playing with integrated.Sorry, I'm a noob in these things... Can you explain me how to do that or give me a link, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkAngelMyk Posted March 31, 2010 Author Share Posted March 31, 2010 What gruntlord is suggesting is that you try playing the game using a motherboard with integrated graphics built in instead of using a Nvidia graphics card. I am still hoping for a solution to the nvidia thing. I do not want to have to pull the graphic card out everytime I wish to play that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4ever Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 What gruntlord is suggesting is that you try playing the game using a motherboard with integrated graphics built in instead of using a Nvidia graphics card. I am still hoping for a solution to the nvidia thing. I do not want to have to pull the graphic card out everytime I wish to play that game. Same. Isn't there any option available to disable the Nvidia card and play using the integrated graphics, without having to remove it?EDIT: Hey guys. It appears that this issue is affecting other somewhat old games... Everybody says it is an Nvidia problem working with Windows 7. Check it here: http://www.pcpuzzle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=230345&sid=884a78b79e7f98077f1e455d9ea06c92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojazz Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Found the solution guys. Turn off "Target Lines" in the game options, and the multi-unit select lag will disappear. HAPPY GAMING! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zack1bt Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Found the solution guys. Turn off "Target Lines" in the game options, and the multi-unit select lag will disappear. HAPPY GAMING! :)It works! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkAngelMyk Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 Couldn't believe my eyes. Awesome it does indeed work. Curious as to how you figured that out but many many thanks.I still get a small stutter every once in a while but the game is definately working. I wonder what in the great erg would make the game stall with target lines.Long live the fighters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruntlord6 Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Couldn't believe my eyes. Awesome it does indeed work. Curious as to how you figured that out but many many thanks.I still get a small stutter every once in a while but the game is definately working. I wonder what in the great erg would make the game stall with target lines.Long live the fighters...does it work for the problem where the game wont let you select units with the mouse drag on nvidia cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkAngelMyk Posted April 24, 2010 Author Share Posted April 24, 2010 Yes I can confirm it does work. The game now plays fine except for the occasional stutter but it is workable. I was able to go through several single player missions and several rounds of skirmish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saasaa Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I really think that's a generic error, just means the drivers ant compatible, are you sure you used the SAME drivers? Drivers get updated and sometimes it is at the cost of old games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athanasios Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Same. Isn't there any option available to disable the Nvidia card and play using the integrated graphics, without having to remove it?a bit late to answer this.1. Through your BIOS settings.2. In Windows 9x/XP use hardware profiles to choose between your Graphic Card and integrated one (or both, and change/enable primary display on integrated only when needed to run Emperor!) when OS is loading (I hope same applies in Vista and 7). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dampkring Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Just turn off TARGET LINES in the Game Options, and the multi unit select lag will disappear :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE AQIB Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 @dampkring: um... just a note although you've seen it but this is a 2010 post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dampkring Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Yea but better late than never ;) And btw the thread isn't closed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE AQIB Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 yea tht's true... btw this problem is only for x64 comp only ryt?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dampkring Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I'm on Windows 7 64 bits and turning off target lines does the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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