Andrew Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 Obama beer sparks controversyObama was drinking a beer at an NBA game. How dare he! He should be working on fixing the economy.He's a raging alcoholic! People look up to him. This will encourage people to drink!Won't someone think of the children and stockholders!?EDIT:Upper-Income Taxpayers Look for Ways to Sidestep Obama Tax-Hike PlanA 63-year-old attorney based in Lafayette, La., who asked not to be named, told ABCNews.com that she plans to cut back on her business to get her annual income under the quarter million mark should the Obama tax plan be passed by Congress and become law.Huh? How does US taxes work? Wouldn't the new tax only affect the income above $250,000?EDIT: others have pointed out that these people are completely stupid and have no idea how taxes work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 beer from a plastic cup? how plebeian... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatfsh Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 What Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 What’s up with President Obama snubbing the British? Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s reception was rather icy to say the least. The whole visit was just one slight after the next. One thing’s clear, this will by no means be another Bush/Blair best-friends-forever relationship.What about when they invade Iran (or whatever country they want)? I'm sure Obama and the British prime minister will become best friends then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatfsh Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Yes, I imagine so. I was just hoping that someone could shed some light on why Obama was practically giving Brown the cold shoulder the whole time. It was not the welcome one would have anticipated for a strong, long-time ally, one with whom the U.S. has had a special relationship with for quite some time.  According to the article, this was their 3rd meeting, but the first since Obama became president. The treatment was down right shabby if you ask me. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 It would be interesting to know why Obama would not be Browns best friend. I thought Brown was an somewhat unpopular Prime Minister?Harper and Obama had a love affair when Obama was here, so it's not that Obama is incapable of friendship.How long is Brown going to be in power? When is the next election there? Maybe he didn't seem friendly so it doesn't mess with whoever gets into power next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 A few thoughts...Brown is not particularly popular in some quarters for the following reasons:- The relative economic prosperity that New Labour enjoyed was largely thanks to his time as Chancellor, but in the current crisis some facts are emerging that suggest his plan was short sighted, and contributed to recent troubles.- Especially in pensions.- He was not elected, he simply took aover after Blair stepped down.- Nobody likes the cronyism of New Labour.- Brown is a bit of a dour fellow, good at his job but not especially personable.- The Scots especially feel a bit betrayed that the Prime Minister (himself Scottish) consistantly plays up "Britishness" and doesn't seem especially interested in them.- Nobody likes the man in charge when things are going down the crapper. We're in recession and the war in Iraq drags ever on; problems that it could be said Brown inherited rather than caused, but whatever.I'd be inclined to say that the coldness isn't related to any of those things though. I would guess that Obama may be trying to distance himself from Blair's successor rather than Brown himself or the country as a whole. Alternatively, he may be taking the Zimbabwean route and dismissing us as colonialists.The next General Election is going to be sometime later this year, probably. I haven't been paying too much attention to politics recently, so I'm not sure of Brown's chances of staying in office. He still has strong support in some quarters, and like Blair is benefitting from the "not great, but there isn't anyone better" status quo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatfsh Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Obviously, Obama is trying to distance himself, thus the cold treatment. The question is really why is he distancing himself. But I think that you touched on the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Just one thought.Gordon Brown was elected, we elected the Labour party and they elected Brown when Blair stepped down, so he was the elected leader of an elected party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatfsh Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 PM Brown presented President Obama and his family with some very unique and thoughtful gifts that have great historical significance and represent the long standing partnership between the U.S. and Great Britain.In return, President Obama presented PM Brown with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 Wow. DVDS? That is so pre 2000 for meaningful gifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Maybe he's trying not to appear favouritist as Bush was.Meh, it's all so much hype. Edit: I should clarify that I don't necessarily agree with my above statements on Brown. Others would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egeides Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Maybe he really likes DVDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Maybe he really likes DVDs.I actually read the list of DVDs, and they are all really good movies.article and list here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Wow ... new lows in cheap digs. :OI LOVE IT! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I never did like Obama anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatfsh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Apparently the feeling is mutual.Although President Obama did make the obligatory comments regarding Great Britain..."The special relationship between the United States and Great Britain is one that is not just important to me, it's important to the American people," Obama assured the British, hitting all the requisite points about common language, culture and the fact that Britain is "where my mother's side of my family came from." Seriously though, are the British the least bit offended by this? Or do they mostly despise PM Brown and view the treatment as no worse than what he gets at home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I haven't noticed anything about anyone really caring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatfsh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Ah, but is that due to the fact that the media has really downplayed the embarrassing incident and therefore the public isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I think it just shows how uncultured the United States of America is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatfsh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 So, at least one British person is going on record as being offended by Obama's treatment. Just when I started to believe that you were all so aloof about everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I wouldn't say I'm offended - it makes Obama look stupid for being so uncultured in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatfsh Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Personally, I couldn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I don't see him as that much of a great politician to be honest, can't see him changing an awful lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 I don't see him as that much of a great politician to be honest, can't see him changing an awful lot.He's changed quite a bit. He is spending more money than Bush ever did. That is change I was not expecting. Will respond to Obama spending in CAD/USD thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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