Nyerguds Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) A rather major update on this: the new updated jukebox on Frank Klepacki's new website contains pretty much all the Dune II music, most likely straight from the original hardware it was composed on. This also means that we now have official track names for all of the music! And best of all: you can simply right-click middle-mouse click the tracks to save them. https://www.frankklepacki.com/ost/vg/dune2 This also officially confirms that the mysterious track we found in the files was meant to be played on the houses selection screen. Besides that, it also has two medleys, one of which was already released previously under "rare tracks" on the old jukebox. An interesting detail these medleys seem to indicate is that the tracks generally called "ambient" were seen as "wander" tracks by Frank, a designation which I find quite fitting for a Dune game. On to missing things: there are no "lose" tracks in there. Though, these were only 8 seconds long, so I can understand them not being seen as real "music" by Frank. On the other hand, the Lion King soundtrack on the site does have the game's 7-second death theme. More worrying is the lack of the 'plotting' music of the interlude with the Emperor talking to the enemy mentats, the music of the final cutscene for each house, and the original credits music. There is a remix of the credits theme, which starts with that mystery theme now identified as the house selection music, but the original is not there. Another thing that is quite different is the map theme: it has an intro of about 45 seconds before getting to the familiar 42-second piece used in the actual game. After the known piece it continues a bit more, and then goes on into the same tune as Battle 2 (Epic War). Then at 2:28 it goes on to a completely new tune. Anyway, here is the full sorted list as I got it now: 01. Introduction.mp3 02. Menu - Hope Fades.mp3 03. Choose Your House.mp3 04. Atreides Mentat - The Council.mp3 05. Harkonnen Mentat.mp3 06. Ordos Mentat - Disturbed Thoughts.mp3 07. Map Theme.mp3 08. Wander 1 - The Building of a Dynasty.mp3 09. Wander 2 - Dark Technology.mp3 10. Wander 3 - Rulers Of Arrakis.mp3 11. Wander 4 - Desert of Doom.mp3 12. Wander 5 - Faithful Warriors.mp3 13. Wander 6 - Spice Melange.mp3 14. Wander 7 - The Prophecy part 1.mp3 15. Wander 8 - The Prophecy part 2.mp3 16. Wander 9 - For Those Fallen.mp3 17. Battle 1 - Into The Heat.mp3 18. Battle 2 - Epic War.mp3 19. Battle 3 - Humans Fall.mp3 20. Battle 4 - Adrenaline Rush.mp3 21. Battle 5 - Only The Strongest Survives.mp3 22. Battle 6 - Marching Towards The End.mp3 23. Atreides Victory.mp3 24. Harkonnen Victory.mp3 25. Ordos Victory - Abuse.mp3 26. Credits Theme Unreleased Funk Jazz Version.mp3 27. Dune 2 Battle Theme Medley.mp3 28. Dune 2 Wander Theme Medley.mp3 Edited June 22, 2019 by Nyerguds 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Oh wow, you gotta listen to Faithful Warriors (Wander #5); after 1:45 there's a whole new background sound in it that I'm quite sure the original didn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernot66 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Hi Folks Just a short notice, i extracted the MIDI (XMI) from DUNE2 and received 27 files (do i missed one?) - it's horrible to extract them because each .XMI contains all the SFX like "helicopter" or "gunshot" each .XMI consists of about 69 tracks (!) most of them are waste. 18 .XMI files contain the MT32 midi files (the rest is adlib or rol) after editing i received 27 seperate files. It might be it isn't equal to what is posted above (sounds somewhat different i feel, neither i have an idea about the titles for the tracks) but i stumbled over this thread while i was looking for a way to extract the music from DUNE1. Dune2 MIDI The file contains also the extracted .XMI files Gernot66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernot66 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 To the missing tracks, it would be possible for me to extract them it's a puzzle but possible. There is an amount of very short tracks which i even left out (some fanfare like stuff). It really isn't easy to extract them from the .XMI files since each consists of (like i said) >60 tracks including repetive gunshots, shore noises and phone rings even in between the tracks which stand sometimes single in a XMI sometimes together with 1 up to 4 standalone tracks of music. The linked mp3's will help me but i won't do that so soon, recently i'm satisfied i just liked to extract them to play the MIDI in DOSBox with a (various) DOS MIDI player (various: MegaMID, Ultrasound Playmidi, PX player which is a fine DOS player using the Miles Sound drivers). Suggestions are welcome so please take a look in the linked zip and tell me if i picked the right tracks i'm not a dedicated DUNE player and can't tell which tune is played when, probably some are build of various tunes? it would be possible and smells like this by looking at the files. (besides, thanks i found the DUNE1 midi's here - nonetheless would i like to know how to extract them, dunno if track 2 sounds proper with the gunshots at start (?) it reminds of what happens with the tracks of DUNE2 if you don't carefully split them you receive a mix of music and soundeffects) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gernot66 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) For those who wonder what i'm up to with the MIDI files: click to play yt clip --- You find the "PX" player (using the miles sound drivers "AIL2") on VOGONS: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=37630&start=60 --- I made a mistake in the previous set of midi files one track had still the loop event in it, this won't be a problem for the standalone MID files since they disrespect the AIL specific loop event but it will loop the track "forever" if it's played back as XMI using "PX". DUNE2 MIDI 20190626 Edited June 26, 2019 by Gernot66 cosmetic, new file version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Well, since I just linked to the midi files recorded from original hardware by the actual composer, I'm not sure if this is still useful 😛 We do have information from the .exe that gives some hints to what music is which track is which in the actual game files. Though do note, the actual track identifications (the sections between [brackets]) are done from personal identification by testing them in-game. Also note that according to the information on Frank Klepacki's website, the tracks generally called "ambient" (indicated as "idle" here) were apparently officially called "wander" instead. This is from a dump made by the Dune II Editor. [None (0)] Filename string ref. = <no reference> Track in this file = 0 [Bonus] Filename string ref. = dune1 Track in this file = 2 [Lose Ordos] Filename string ref. = dune1 Track in this file = 3 [Lose Harkonnen] Filename string ref. = dune1 Track in this file = 4 [Lose Atreides] Filename string ref. = dune1 Track in this file = 5 [Win Ordos] Filename string ref. = dune17 Track in this file = 4 [Win Harkonnen] Filename string ref. = dune8 Track in this file = 3 [Win Atreides] Filename string ref. = dune8 Track in this file = 2 [Idle 1] Filename string ref. = dune1 Track in this file = 6 [Idle 2] Filename string ref. = dune2 Track in this file = 6 [Idle 3] Filename string ref. = dune3 Track in this file = 6 [Idle 4] Filename string ref. = dune4 Track in this file = 6 [Idle 5] Filename string ref. = dune5 Track in this file = 6 [Idle 6] Filename string ref. = dune6 Track in this file = 6 [Idle 7] Filename string ref. = dune9 Track in this file = 4 [Idle 8] Filename string ref. = dune9 Track in this file = 5 [Idle 9] Filename string ref. = dune18 Track in this file = 6 [Attack 1] Filename string ref. = dune10 Track in this file = 7 [Attack 2] Filename string ref. = dune11 Track in this file = 7 [Attack 3] Filename string ref. = dune12 Track in this file = 7 [Attack 4] Filename string ref. = dune13 Track in this file = 7 [Attack 5] Filename string ref. = dune14 Track in this file = 7 [Attack 6] Filename string ref. = dune15 Track in this file = 7 [23] Filename string ref. = dune1 Track in this file = 8 [Brief Harkonnen] Filename string ref. = dune7 Track in this file = 2 [Brief Atreides] Filename string ref. = dune7 Track in this file = 3 [Brief Ordos] Filename string ref. = dune7 Track in this file = 4 [Intro] Filename string ref. = dune0 Track in this file = 2 [Menu] Filename string ref. = dune7 Track in this file = 6 [Conquest] Filename string ref. = dune16 Track in this file = 7 [Finale Harkonnen] Filename string ref. = dune19 Track in this file = 4 [Finale Atreides] Filename string ref. = dune19 Track in this file = 2 [Finale Ordos] Filename string ref. = dune19 Track in this file = 3 [Credits] Filename string ref. = dune20 Track in this file = 2 [Cutscene] Filename string ref. = dune16 Track in this file = 8 [35] Filename string ref. = dune0 Track in this file = 3 [Logos] Filename string ref. = dune0 Track in this file = 4 [37] Filename string ref. = dune0 Track in this file = 5 [edit] Okay, so, I matched all your midis to the official names: DUNE2-01.MID - Choose Your House (unused in-game) DUNE2-02.MID - Wander 1 - The Building of a Dynasty DUNE2-03.MID - Wander 2 - Dark Technology DUNE2-04.MID - Wander 3 - Rulers Of Arrakis.mp3 DUNE2-05.MID - Wander 4 - Desert of Doom DUNE2-06.MID - Wander 5 - Faithful Warriors DUNE2-07.MID - Wander 6 - Spice Melange DUNE2-08.MID - Harkonnen Mentat DUNE2-09.MID - Atreides Mentat - The Council DUNE2-10.MID - Ordos Mentat - Disturbed Thoughts DUNE2-11.MID - Menu - Hope Fades DUNE2-12.MID - Atreides Victory DUNE2-13.MID - Harkonnen Victory DUNE2-14.MID - Wander 7 - The Prophecy part 1 DUNE2-15.MID - Wander 8 - The Prophecy part 2 DUNE2-16.MID - Battle 2 - Epic War DUNE2-17.MID - Battle 3 - Humans Fall DUNE2-18.MID - Battle 4 - Adrenaline Rush DUNE2-19.MID - Battle 5 - Only The Strongest Survives DUNE2-20.MID - Battle 6 - Marching Towards The End DUNE2-21.MID - Map Theme DUNE2-22.MID - [Interlude track: Plotting (not on Frank's site)] DUNE2-23.MID - Ordos Victory - Abuse DUNE2-24.MID - Wander 9 - For Those Fallen DUNE2-25.MID - [Atreides Ending Cutscene (not on Frank's site)] DUNE2-26.MID - [Ordos Ending Cutscene (not on Frank's site)] DUNE2-27.MID - [Harkonnen Ending Cutscene (not on Frank's site)] Not accounted for: Game intro Battle 1 - Into The Heat Credits theme All three "Lose" themes (thought they're only 8 second clips) Note that the midi files are available here:https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=33823&start=42 These seem identical to yours, only the pack has all of them. The unused "Choose Your House" theme is misidentified as "Ambient 1" though. Edited September 13, 2021 by Nyerguds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlibble Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I wonder if the track titles are all original? The audio previews folder from Westwood FTP has a file called revenge2.wav but the same piece is titled Into the Heat on the site. It's not that Frank K's tracks never had alternate titles preserved in file names, like some of those in C&C and IIRC in RA1 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Yeah, but none of these tracks match their function, really. The one marked as "intro" is unrelated to the intro, and the "ordos" one isn't specifically Ordos in any way either. Here's the mapping of those, btw: d2intro2.wav - Rulers of Arrakis ordos2.wav - The Prophecy part 2 r22.wav - Humans Fall revenge2.wav - Into The Heat [edit] This is peculiar though... some sites have had these names for the tracks for ages... https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/dune-2 I checked archive.org; they always had them. Edited July 4, 2019 by Nyerguds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnovice Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/index.php?title=File:210_-_Dune_II_-_DOS_-_Spice_Melange.ogg This (piano/organ version) is my favourite. 👍👌 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svfn Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 6/20/2019 at 12:57 AM, Nyerguds said: A rather major update on this: the new updated jukebox on Frank Klepacki's new website contains pretty much all the Dune II music, most likely straight from the original hardware it was composed on. This also means that we now have official track names for all of the music! And best of all: you can simply right-click middle-mouse click the tracks to save them. https://www.frankklepacki.com/ost/vg/dune2 I really like the versions on Frank's site, wonder if its a mix of different hardware, it doesn't sound like most of the purely MT-32 recordings found on youtube. Finally can have a complete Dune soundtrack experience :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanhendriks Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, svfn said: I really like the versions on Frank's site, wonder if its a mix of different hardware, it doesn't sound like most of the purely MT-32 recordings found on youtube. Finally can have a complete Dune soundtrack experience I had to hear them and you're right. The MT32 recordings I have sound different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Might be he rerecorded it on modern software that can use these old projects, but no longer uses the physical MT-32, which could explain how it sounds different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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