Gobalopper Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Well you will have had to have been around for a long long time to catch the relation but Bill9999 from the now deceased Westwood Underground used to do these fairly often and the timing seems about right for me to do one of my own.As you may have noticed the server has been running really slow lately. The problem comes from our current host and the restrictions we have since we are hosted on a free server. Unfortunately even though we did pay for a large percentage of the server there doesn't seem to be much I can do about the speed issues other then finding an alternative host. We could probably stay here and continue on as is but I don't think that appeals to very many people due to the complaints we regularly receive. ;)If it does come down to finding another host we would need a fairly large allotment of bandwidth and space which doesn't come cheap. This site alone does about 50GB a month which would likely increase if the server was faster and that total doesn't include the subdomains. Costs for a good host that provides what we need range in the $25/month mark which is well over double what the Google ads generate.So the floor is open to suggestions. An example plan that would likely support a site of our size can be seen here at 1&1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Knight Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Yeah, I've begun to notice that FED2k can sometimes take a while to load. For me, it just sort of waits about 5 - 10 seconds then loads at the normal speed. Which is weird, but I can put up with it. I hope it doesn't come down to having to pay for webspace, but if it does, I'm sure that there's more than enough members on this forum that would be willing to donate a small amount of money, possibly through PayPal, to keep the site going.My friend Jaszon just recently bought some webspace, and apparently got a very good deal. You might want to check out this site, Gob. These are the guys that do the hosting for my friend's site, and he pays something stupid like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Hehe, we use 1and1 too. Can you not split up the site. Or more... the downloads, which can stay on the free host, and the site move over to another "paid for" host ?Also, wouldnt revenue from Google ads go up as there are more users ? I think thats what you meant about the increased bandwidth if we went to a faster server. Also, how exactly do we get money from google ads ? Can we help by clicking on them etc. etc.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Do theys till pay for blood int eh states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Yah! get a couple of monthly bloods donors to supoort the site.I think we just get milk and cookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Yah! get a couple of monthly bloods donors to supoort the site.I think we just get milk and cookies.Yes. "Donors".In canada it's just orange juice and cookies. They used to pay in the states, dunno if they still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Selling your body as a service ( ;) ;)) will soon become legal in Liverpool (serves them right for not living in London) but unfortunately, no one wood pay for my body, otherwise I would look at that as an option.Is it not possible to have download mirros for our...erm...downloads..? We should be able to use free hosts then for something like that, shurely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 I doubt a reliable mirror would host all the files for free (no strings attached).Although I thought we did get one.Also wondering why this is in Fed2k news, but not on the front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Maybe we dont want everyone who visits knowing about this issue ?And if we split it up enough, we probably could host all the downloads elsewhere, it would just be a lot of hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Jesse posted this last night before going to bed. Probably just forgot rebuild the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Maybe we dont want everyone who visits knowing about this issue ?Then it would have just went in the general board. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 No erjin is right I don't want it displaying on the main page.And we do have a mirror but Professor-Botje has been having some problems getting it working. The problem with finding mirrors is that I doubt many would be interested in just having us post 1GB of files on their server. And even when I turned off downloads for a month we did about 20GB and the server was still slow at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 How about disallowing attachments, no avatars..small things like that that are repeated. Would that help ? Shurely the text used in this forum isnt going to account for so many Gigs a month ? It has to be the pics and attachments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Daddy Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Hi Gob, I came across this thread 'cause I was looking around for threads on map making, and this one caught my eye. Whistler and I were talking about this subject about a week ago. We were wondering how you and the Strike Team raised the money to run your sites. I don't really look at all this site because my main interest is Emp. online, and because of free time constraints. But most the topics here are of interest to me, as is this site in general. Why don't you just solicit contributions? I have allways felt that in life there is very little that is truly free. And if something is worth having, it is worth supporting. If your member base is large enough It would not add up to that much per person. Whistler and I would certianly be willing to contribute. Is it because of the percentage of your viewers that are minors, and therefor have no means of income? Or do you feel you have a large "casual" base but a relitively small "Die Hard" fan base? Or don't you want to go that route because of a longevity concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I think that many people are eithor minors or poor university students.Or do not have an online account aka credit card. As credit card is the easiest way to send money.If I get a cheque to clear, I may be able to support $25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I do not think a 'payed' subscription to the site will do good for the site.Neither do i believe a 'donation' will solve the problem, cause it is just a 1 time donation.First i believe that un-necessarry things should be blocked, like pictures in the signature...Anyway another host should be found i guess, which cost money...Wasn't there a thread somewhere about Gates donating? ;)Actually when i think of it, i can't think of anything better then adds or donation. Or maybe contribution (a very small fee) but then people should get something in return...Like if you pay 10 euro you become a Inktwine something, when u pay 1000 euro you become Landsraad ;D (This is how you all became Landsraad i thought???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 First i believe that un-necessarry things should be blocked, like pictures in the signature...But the signiture is hosted on my own server, thus not using any Fed2k bandwidth, except for the coding.I have firefox blocking Fed2k ads, but if they are actually generating money, I think I will allow them to be viewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 http://www.srcf.ucam.org/tos.htmlhttp://www.srcf.ucam.org/services/Regarding distribution of server space, I can get this free. I'm not entirely sure how useful it would be, but it IS 100MB. I certainly don't want it to be "using SRCF facilities to generate excessive chargeable bandwidth", though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 Or maybe contribution (a very small fee) but then people should get something in return...Err, how about a website in return... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 http://www.dune2k.com/?page=siteinfo-supportThis page has a link which allows you to donate using PayPal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted February 8, 2005 Author Share Posted February 8, 2005 Well I wouldn't recommend that as it would go to PhaseBurn. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erjin999 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 And we do have a mirror but Professor-Botje has been having some problems getting it working. The problem with finding mirrors is that I doubt many would be interested in just having us post 1GB of files on their server. And even when I turned off downloads for a month we did about 20GB and the server was still slow at times.Did we ever get that mirror ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted April 14, 2005 Author Share Posted April 14, 2005 We did but at the moment it isn't necessary so not being used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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